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Post by slowdog76 on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 17:02

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Post by Pagey on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 19:00

In all fairness it's crazy making it an Xbox exclusive. It's not fair on the fans who follow and play the franchise who will miss out because they don't own an Xbox One Sad
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Post by N1NJA FWG on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 19:21

Its a shame on those who would like to play it but wont have their arm twisted behind their back to play along with platform exclusivity.

I can see Square losing a lot of goodwill over this (and business) because its not just going to be console gamers affected, PC gamers too will miss out.

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Post by totalgizmo on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 19:32

They've not said if it's a timed exclusive and Square Enix/Crystal Dynamic have come out with a statement since the announcement of "no comment at this time"
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Post by totalgizmo on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 19:39

It's a strange exclusive too, it might be a good game but I wouldn't concider it a console seller.
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Post by The Selkie on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 20:15

Square Enix weren't too happy with the reboot's performance (even though it did well) so I'm guessing they accepted a big fat cheque in exchange for MS exclusivity to guarantee that they'll make money on the sequel. I think they might have screwed themselves over in the long term though, unless MS is willing to pay to keep all future Tomb Raider games as exclusives.if they make Tomb Raider 3 multi-platform I wouldn't be too surprised if lots of PS4 and PC gamers won't buy it because they're upset over this.
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Post by Killswitchmad on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 21:51

The Selkie wrote:Square Enix weren't too happy with the reboot's performance (even though it did well) so I'm guessing they accepted a big fat cheque in exchange for MS exclusivity to guarantee that they'll make money on the sequel. I think they might have screwed themselves over in the long term though, unless MS is willing to pay to keep all future Tomb Raider games as exclusives.if they make Tomb Raider 3 multi-platform I wouldn't be too surprised if lots of PS4 and PC gamers won't buy it because they're upset over this.


This was my thinking, SE is still in a bit if financial turmoil at the moment and I think they've taken this choice for a couple of reasons, firstly it's obvious that the deal comes with a big fat cheque from MS, secondly the title currently is only in development for X1 effectively cutting development costs by at least half and thirdly by becoming an X1 exclusive SE will no doubt enjoy a gigantic marketing campaign paid for by MS....

As fir staying exclusive I think sales will tell that story, if it does well then I expect it will come to PS4 eventually if not then SE won't have lost out by a huge amount....

Frankly I don't understand all the fuss, Tomb Raider was PS exclusive for years and you didn't see N64 owners kicking up a stink about it.....
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Post by N1NJA FWG on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 22:29

Killswitchmad wrote:Frankly I don't understand all the fuss, Tomb Raider was PS exclusive for years and you didn't see N64 owners kicking up a stink about it.....

Didn't the first TR release on PS1, PC and Saturn? Hardly exclusive Wink

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Post by Killswitchmad on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 22:32

Yeah but the Saturn doesn't count,all of about 2 people bought a Saturn Laughing and the PC is just the PC it also doesn't count Laughing
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Post by N1NJA FWG on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 22:33

Scratch  nice backing up there Tom, smooth like Razz

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Post by Killswitchmad on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 22:34

It was a non-exclusive exclusive.....what more can I say Laughing
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Post by The Selkie on Tue 12 Aug 2014 - 23:12

Killswitchmad wrote:Frankly I don't understand all the fuss, Tomb Raider was PS exclusive for years and you didn't see N64 owners kicking up a stink about it.....
The difference is that there are plenty of PS owners who have been playing Tomb Raider on their PS for years, now they're annoyed that SE has abandoned them in exchange for a payoff from MS. If the next game in the series does come back to PS then I reckon we could see that ill-will manifesting itself in the form of lower sales than expected on the PS4.
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Post by slowdog76 on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 8:23

I must admit, watching half the internet completely meltdown yesterday afternoon at the result of this announcement was fairly amusing. goes to show how big a name tomb raider still is.

i think kills hit the nail on the head personally. big cheque + reduced development costs.
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Post by HomerRamone2084 on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 8:51

Don't expect going for boner only is going to reduce the dev costs that much in the grand scheme of things. (Why would it ?)

Almost all games these days are developed on PC. Even if its 100% XB exclusive I bet its run on PC for the most part. It will get run on the console of course during the dev cycle...

AAMOI Have the explicitly said its NOT going to appear on PC ? Its a bit vague.

I woudl also throw titanfall into the mix - bet TF2 ain't XB exclusive.. think that says something.
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Post by FWG Unky Al on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 10:31

To be honest I couldn't give a rats ass that its a boner exclusive as I've never been into TR :-)

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Post by Reaper FWG on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 11:37

i find it funny watching ppls reactions. lol

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Post by Pagey on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 12:03

Killswitchmad wrote:Yeah but the Saturn doesn't count,all of about 2 people bought a Saturn Laughing and the PC is just the PC it also doesn't count Laughing

Lol that made me laugh  Laughing 
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Post by slowdog76 on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 12:58

i popped and had a look. theyre almost at 10k. read a few comments and the most interesting thing i discovered is that there is a town in germany called "dinklage"........

i wonder if theyre all dwarves?
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Post by HomerRamone2084 on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 14:10

Well look at that. Its not exclusive after all.

Exclusive. Pish and tish
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Post by slowdog76 on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 15:22

yeah. interesting.

still, its about the headlines and the marketing. titanfall was on 3 platforms and is mainly associated with xb1. destiny is perceived more with PS4. now TR will get a lot of advertising and what not with XB1. will be interestinig to see how long the exclusivity is for

of course, no other platforms announced. pc will be a shoe in. ps4 will be playing the waiting game i guess
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Post by totalgizmo on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 15:35

It was odd the way he announced it, "exclusive for the holiday" rather than "exclusive to XBOX coming this/next holiday". Like I said earlier in the thread it wasn't made clear if it was timed or not, it sounded at the time like they weren't being upfront about the whole thing. Why they use these marketing tactics I don't know, just be upfront, say its a timed exclusive instead of all this underhand nonsense. MS/Sony say there is no rivalry between themselves but stuff like this just feeds the fanboys more and more ammo.
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Post by slowdog76 on Wed 13 Aug 2014 - 15:43

yeah you are right. they're both as bad as each other in that regard.

in fairness to phil mind, in his interview he did say that the exclusivity has a duration and what they do with it after that is up to SE. they still worded it stupidly, but then, any news about where else it may or may not appear isnt down to them to announce
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Post by Killswitchmad on Fri 15 Aug 2014 - 15:02

Interesting story about this today, a SE employee has stated that SE are so out of touch with the audience that they were completely baffled by the amount of people that cared about the deal, As far as SE were concerned Tomb Raider was never a AAA title for them....
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Post by HomerRamone2084 on Fri 15 Aug 2014 - 15:35

They dont think its a AAA title - and yet they moaned when sales didnt meet expectations. Im getting mixed messages there like Smile
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